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Jan 16, 2012 8:49 AM

Formatting question from a newbie

Hi I am new to this world. Briefly I publsihed my first novel through a small press 5 years ago and just finsihed by second novel. After much research I have decided to go with the DIY route. It's exciting but I have a lot to learn. My first question is about formatting. I have decided by book with be 8.5 x 5.5. Does anyone have any suggestion of how I should format the top, bottom and gutters? Any and all help with be greatly appreciated!!

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1. Jan 16, 2012 9:26 AM in response to: DaveH71
Re: Formatting question from a newbie

Hi DaveH71,

 

First, welcome to the CreateSpace community

 

You'll find some basic/formatted interior templates here, some of the formatting you asked about will already be set for you:

 

Interior Templates:

https://www.createspace.com/en/community/docs/DOC-1323

 

  • The formatted templates include sample content to guide you, including front matter, chapters, headers, page numbers, etc.
  • The basic templates' page size and margins meet submission specifications. Just copy and paste your manuscript by section.

 

If you need instruction on how to get started on formatting your interior, start here:

 

A Step-By-Step Guide to Formatting Your Book's Interior:
https://www.createspace.com/en/community/docs/DOC-1482

 

Hope this gets you started in the right direction.

 

Eric

 

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2. Jan 16, 2012 9:37 AM in response to: DaveH71
Re: Formatting question from a newbie

Although CS has templates, my general advice is to avoid them.  You would probably want to tweak a few things, and if you knew how to do that, you wouldn't need a template.  If you need to confirm what things you need to do, you can download a template, but it does something things wrong or unnecessarily: CS wrongly uses both a inner margin and a gutter setting in Word templates (set Page Setup to Pages > Multiple pages > Mirror margins, then set the gutter to 0", then use the minimum or greater inside setting (see table: https://www.createspace.com/Products/Book/InteriorPDF.jsp); don't use Widow/orphan control (Paragraph > Line and page breaks > Pagination . . . use none of the pagination options), it leads to long and short pages; etc.

 

What margins to use?  You must observe two margins: the inner margin, see above, and the 0.25" out-of-live margin that goes around each page. The easiest suggestion is this: use a book that is 8.5 x 5.5 and that you like the proportions of. How? Ruler, pencil, and paper. What I do when I have a client who says they want a book to look exactly like ___________, I get a photocopy of several pages. I construct a page to those measurements; retype the page (or use a OCR program, like http://www.freeocr.net/) to generate the actual text, then I play with the fonts, letter and word spacing, etc. until I can "match" the photocopies pages. Sometimes if I don't need to be fussy, or I'm designing from scratch, I'll flow in dummy text (I use lorem ipsum from http://www.lipsum.com/) into the pages.

 

The look of your pages is based on the trim size, the margins, the typeface for the text, the leading and letter spacing, the header fonts, etc. Print out a spread (if you have to trim and tape the pages, do that). You cannot judge your design only by what you see on the monitor.

 

Also no one can tell you what the best fonts are or the best margins.  Your design must fit your taste, the subject matter and style of your book, the intended audience, etc.

 

Take a look at Build Your Book, a free, 98 page guide to designing your book, and Bleeds, free, 19 page, illustrated guide to bleeds and margins, do's and don't's for CreateSpace.

 

Walton

Mechanics & Punctuation, free, 20 page guide to everything punctuation  Build Your Book, a free, 98 page guide to designing your book;  CS Digital understand CS digital possibilities; GIMP, free, tutorials, GIMP, GIMP Help, excerpts from GIMP Supremacy Supremacy;  Bleeds, free, 19 page, illustrated guide to bleeds and margins, do's and don't's for CreateSpace;  Contact for graphics, design, and typesetting help.  Disclaimer: all statements of apparent fact in this post are empirical inferences based on observational data. These are idiosyncratic in nature and have not necessarily been subject to verification.

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3. Jan 16, 2012 9:41 AM in response to: DaveH71
Re: Formatting question from a newbie

First of all, remember that width goes before height, so if you are probably meaning a 5.5x8.5 size. Second, we need to know what program you plan on using for the formatting. Third, no matter what program you use, ignore the term and field "gutter". In the publishing world the gutter is the distance between the right hand margin of print on the left hand page and the left hand margin of print on the right hand side. It is all white space and twice the distance of the interior margin on your page.

 

Generally, for my 5.25x8 books I use a variable interior margin (depends on the number of pages I have in the book), 0.375 for the outside margin and 0.5 for the top and bottom margins. I also set my paragraphs in from the trim lines (indicated by the measurements above) 0.06 inch so even if I am using italics it will not slip into the margin trim area.

 

DO NOT use the CS template. If you are using MSWord go to http://www.lulu/tinhorn and download the template there. If you are using OpenOffice or any of the other open source forks from OO, download my templates.

 

Seal

FREE OpenOffice Interior & Cover Templates available at:

http://www.stevenwjohnson.com

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4. Jan 16, 2012 9:53 AM in response to: Seal
Re: Formatting question from a newbie

Hey Steven, you forgot to insert .com in the www.lulu.com link. But it looks like that link isn't active anyway! I do remember the templates you are referring to though . . . do you know of another link?

 

Eric

 

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Eric V. Van Der Hope | #1 International Bestselling Author, Publishing & Book Marketing Strategist

 

Available From Amazon: "Mastering Niche Marketing"

After Purchasing the Book - Get Your Free Gifts Here: http://www.MasteringNicheMarketing.com

Read Eric's Latest Blog Posts: "Eric's Book Marketing Minute"

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