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Mar 7, 2018 5:03 PM

Amazon uses own printers?

Hello there,

 

When someone buys a book from Amazon, will it look like the preview samples that I order from CS? (I know each print is not perfect and can differ everytime a new one is made; I am not wondering about that.)

 

What I am specifically wondering is if Amazon will have it's own printing machines and standards of printing dimensions/configurations. If they do, then I am assuming that printing will look different from CS's printing -- especially if they print on their own machines.

 

Thank you very much,

 

Named

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1. Mar 7, 2018 6:31 PM in response to: Named
Re: Amazon uses own printers?

Other than author copies, which are always printed on CS's equipment, one can never be sure who prints copies sold on Amazon. A book could be printed by CS, Amazon, Lightning Source or other third party, depending on who can supply it the fastest and where the book is headed. You can find out after the fact by checking the inner barcode page at the back of the book as it usually lists the print location (some third-party printers don't include this information at all).

 

 

Michelle

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3. Mar 8, 2018 12:48 AM in response to: Named
Re: Amazon uses own printers?

This would be my question as well. I am a grayscale coloring book designer publishing my books through CreateSpace and Amazon. I have had numorous complaints about poor quality printing of my books with printer lines running across the entire picture, this persistent problem effects the sales of my books. I have lodged complaints via your message center and the response is for my customers to return the books to Amazon for replacement, as far as I am concerned this is not an effective method as Amazon will send the returned poor quality printed book to the next customer purchasing that title. Grayscale pages can NOT be printed on the same print setting as you would do for a book consisting only of the written word but need to be printed on a higher quality print setting. Is there anyway that someone in CreatSpace could help me to sort out this persistent problem? I would like to have the contact details of the company that would be doing the printing of the grayscale coloring books to be able to discuss the correct print setting for these books. Your help with this issue would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanking you in advance!

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4. Mar 8, 2018 2:09 AM in response to: Nappy123
Re: Amazon uses own printers?

B&W books are really only intended for text-based books. You can experience jagged edges or banding if you have images in a B&W book. An alternative would be to print the book in colour, since the paper is better quality and different ink/toner is used, and thus doesn't experience the same problems.

 

Also, what resolution are your images? For line art, 600dpi is recommended.

 

 

Michelle

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5. Mar 8, 2018 2:10 AM in response to: Named
Re: Amazon uses own printers?

Named wrote:


I'm still wondering as to whether or not the print coming from CS is a reliable sample for judgment. So if the sample print comes out good from CS, I can assume that it will also print out well from most places?

 

Replace "assume" with "hope".

 

There is a Satisfaction Guarantee if you think your books are not printed to the same standard of your CS proof copy.

 

 

Michelle

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6. Mar 8, 2018 5:28 AM in response to: Named
Re: Amazon uses own printers?

Streaking, like this,

 

 

is a maintenance problem.  I agree with Michelle in general, black and white books were intended to be black and white books (novels, poetry, etc.), But if CS can print a black character from 2 pt to 200 pt, it can print line art.  If it can print line art, it can print coloring books.  There is no difference between characters and lines.  As for jaggies:

 

 

 

Here, anti-aliaxing, producing a gary pixel between the black pixels along the edge, called hinting with text, generally solves the problem.  However, with line art, 1-bit, balck and white with no grays, then you need to use a higher resolution:

 

 

 

The irregularities you see at 800 dpi under magnification are due to paper fibers and how the ink follows those contours.

 

If your books are consently being printed badly, try to find out where they were printed, better still is a scan of the back page.  I had a client who did a book of his paintings.  On and order of 250 copies every copy was printed badly (pages were folded/creased/before trimming, there were several images with scratches, the cover simply fell off . . . every copy . . . CS was apparently able to direct that his book not be printed at a specific location (in this case, it was marked San Bernardino)..

 

If your art is prepared correctly, it should print ok with CS.  I would expect no less.

 

Given the spam here, come on over to  selfpublishingforum.  It's free.  Many of us who answer questions here are active there.

 

Walton

 

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