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Is it a good idea to let Kindle create the paperback version?

Kindle has recently started to offer an option where it publishes your ebook into a paperback.  I usually do it the other way round - i.e. publish my paperback on Create Space first, and then follow the wizard to have it turned into a Kindle book.


Does anyone know if there are advantages in publishing it first as a Kindle version, and then letting them publish the book into paperback? For instance, are the royalties that they give the author any higher than those Create Space pays when you publish the paperback first? 


Be very grateful for a steer on this.


Thanks!

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1. Jul 20, 2017 6:07 AM in response to: HolisticJohn
Re: Is it a good idea to let Kindle create the paperback version?

HolisticJohn wrote:

 

Kindle has recently started to offer an option where it publishes your ebook into a paperback.  I usually do it the other way round - i.e. publish my paperback on Create Space first, and then follow the wizard to have it turned into a Kindle book.


Does anyone know if there are advantages in publishing it first as a Kindle version, and then letting them publish the book into paperback? For instance, are the royalties that they give the author any higher than those Create Space pays when you publish the paperback first? 


Be very grateful for a steer on this.


Thanks!

 

According to the advice often seen in another forum, it's best to do them seperately, eBooks in KDP, paperbacks in Createspace.

(Which is what I do).

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2. Jul 20, 2017 7:09 AM in response to: HolisticJohn
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HolisticJohn wrote:

For instance, are the royalties that they give the author any higher than those Create Space pays when you publish the paperback first?

Nope, they're the same. In addition, KDP Print Beta does not offer proof copies or author discounted copies.

 

You may also want to check out http://12on14.us/free/cs_vs_kdp_043017.pdf.

 

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3. Jul 20, 2017 3:07 PM in response to: HolisticJohn
Re: Is it a good idea to let Kindle create the paperback version?

It makes no difference. Allowing CreateSpace to create the ebook or allowing KDP to create the paperback are equally poor ideas.

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4. Jul 20, 2017 3:10 PM in response to: HolisticJohn
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A more thorough assessment of KDP Print:

 

 

I say the idea stinks, but that's not your fault.

 

Walton

 

Bleeds,  free, 91 page guide to bleeds, margins, covers, and annotated CreateSpace guidelines. Prepress Glossary: free, 79 page, fully illustrated prepress glossary with annotations for  CreateSpace users Type & Typography: free, 112 page illustrated guide to designing books, typography, with glossary, and type specimen pages  Free: list of free PDF downloads; selfpublishingforum: spam free forum. Contact  for graphics, design, and typesetting help.

 

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5. Jul 25, 2017 4:23 PM in response to: Lorem_Ipsum
Re: Is it a good idea to let Kindle create the paperback version?

Lorem, why do you say that? I'm currently working on a book that I was considering turning it into an ebook just to see how it goes with ebooks. If neither Createspace nor Kindle is the way to go, what is?

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6. Jul 25, 2017 6:37 PM in response to: beetles_bub
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Lorem means that you should stick with CreateSpace for paperbacks and stick with KDP for ebooks. Don't try to do both editions with the same company, because neither one is good for both.

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8. Jul 26, 2017 4:07 PM in response to: Seisa
Re: Is it a good idea to let Kindle create the paperback version?

Thanks Seisa. I guess I'm still wondering why? Once a file has been formatted, isn't all the hard work done?

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9. Jul 27, 2017 6:09 PM in response to: beetles_bub
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beetles_bub wrote:

 

Once a file has been formatted, isn't all the hard work done?

Not if you want these two different editions. Formatting for paperback and ebook are two very different animals, if you want to do it properly for both.

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10. Jul 30, 2017 7:00 AM in response to: walton
Re: Is it a good idea to let Kindle create the paperback version?

Hey everyone, I'm the new kid on the block, can someone tell me what is a 'bleed'?  Thanks

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11. Jul 30, 2017 8:05 AM in response to: SoulFlier
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A bleed is when you call for the image to be extended off the page. Because a quarter-inch or so is lost in the final trim, this means you must not include anything vital in the outside (or top and bottom, if you're bleeding in that direction) of the photo.

 

You must also check off the "bleed" option in the publishing process. And you would be wise to get a physical proof copy to make sure you've done it right.

 

Because of the subject matter of this thread, I must include my boilerplate comment on KDP paperbacks:

 

KDP Print Beta was rolled out at the end of September last year. The process was buggy, and it seems to remain so to this day. The quality of the books that actually go on sale is rather low, as you can see by doing a search on Amazon for *Independently published*

 

Its sole advantage is that the author-publisher gets to see his or her paperback sales on the same page as the Kindle sales. But really, how big an advantage is that? How many seconds does it take, really, to check one's sales on Createspace--ten seconds, thirty seconds?

 

In exchange, you get that buggy publishing process, no physical proof copy, no discounted author copies for gift or resale, and no distribution to Barnes & Noble or to brick-and-mortar bookstores. (Most small bookstores will, as a favor to a customer and perhaps a small surcharge, order a Createspace or IngramSpark paperback.) If you don't live in the US, the proof copy and author's copies won't be as attractive, because of high shipping costs, but still....

 

My advice is to stick with CreateSpace with its excellent cover wizard, helpful community forum, and direct-to-author discounted sales. (If you don't live in the US, the physical proof copy and discounted author copies will be less attractive to you.)

 

Good luck! -- NJ

 

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12. Jul 30, 2017 5:02 PM in response to: SoulFlier
Re: Is it a good idea to let Kindle create the paperback version?

Take a look at my free page, link below.  I have glossaries and guides, all free.

 

Walton

 

Bleeds,  free, 91 page guide to bleeds, margins, covers, and annotated CreateSpace guidelines. Prepress Glossary: free, 79 page, fully illustrated prepress glossary with annotations for  CreateSpace users Type & Typography: free, 112 page illustrated guide to designing books, typography, with glossary, and type specimen pages  Free: list of free PDF downloads; selfpublishingforum: spam free forum. Contact  for graphics, design, and typesetting help.

 

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13. Dec 13, 2017 8:33 AM in response to: HolisticJohn
Re: Is it a good idea to let Kindle create the paperback version?

Seems interesting.

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