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Best option for HARDCOVER children's book?

Lulu? Lightening Source? Other? The design & layout I've done myself but am looking for best and cheapest way to publish/sell as POD  hardcover - best option? Thanks!

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1. Mar 22, 2011 12:47 PM in response to: Rblink
Re: Best option for HARDCOVER children's book?

The only problem with LSI is that you will be charged everytime you make a correction, but their distribution is terriffic. Lulu, from what I understand, is good, ask lipmag as she used them extensively.

 

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3. Mar 22, 2011 1:08 PM in response to: Rblink
Re: Best option for HARDCOVER children's book?

Yeah, the base price (YOUR print cost) is $20. To that you have to add enough to give bookstores a minimum of 40% discount plus your profit. What is the soft cover price through CS? I bet it is around $4 or less, right? Lightning Source isn't going to be much cheaper than Lulu, I think, but having never ventured into hard covers or used LSI I am just guessing.

 

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4. Mar 22, 2011 1:30 PM in response to: Rblink
Re: Best option for HARDCOVER children's book?

Welcome to the community.

 

You'll see economies of scale with a regular printer that specializes in children's hardcover books that aren't possible with print-on-demand services.  For instance, with POD, it doesn't matter whether you're printing 1 book or 1,000 -- the unit cost is the same (and $20 to $30 is not unusual).

 

With a regular print run, however, the more you print (up to a point), the cheaper it gets per book (dropping the cost to as little as $4 to $6 per unit).  You also get more options regarding paper selection than you do with POD services.  Obviously, this means a very large investment up-front to buy a quantity of books that nets a sunstantial discount from the printer, but if you're confident enough in the title to consider a hardcover edition, it may be worth the investment.

 

Hope that helps.  Best wishes.

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5. Mar 22, 2011 1:52 PM in response to: Rblink
Re: Best option for HARDCOVER children's book?

From CreateSpace:

 

We now offer hard cover books to authors for wholesale purchase.
The cost to have your book also available to you as hard cover edition is $199.00.

Books with a b&w interior cost .015 per page + the cost of the cover.

Then  add $6.50 for case bound laminate or $8.50 for cloth with dust jacket  cover. Full color interiors cost .15 per page + the above cover charge.

Example: 100 page book with a full color cover and b&w interior

100 x .015 = $1.50 + $8.50 dust jacket = $11.50 each.

100 x .015 = $1.50 + $6.50 case bound laminate = $9.50 each

 

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6. Mar 22, 2011 1:57 PM in response to: walton
Re: Best option for HARDCOVER children's book?

At 32 pages x $0.15 + $8.50 = $13.30  (Not including the setup fee.)

 

That's a lot lower than Lulu. But that is the wholesale price to you, and you are the only one who can buy it: at this time, it does not appear that it can be created for any other distribution channel.

 

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7. Mar 22, 2011 3:25 PM in response to: walton
Re: Best option for HARDCOVER children's book?

It also does not indicate minimum quantities that I saw. Do you suppose they would be willing to do one off?

 

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8. Mar 22, 2011 3:31 PM in response to: Seal
Re: Best option for HARDCOVER children's book?

It is my understanding you can order 1-1000.  It is, after all, print on demand. The only catches are:

  • These are wholesale to the author only
  • They do not enter EDCs
  • There is a $199 one-time setup fee

 

At least that is how I interpreted the letter.

 

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