I'm not Kate, but I do have an answer. I happen to have my own set of ten ISBNs (bought when the price was actually reasonable). I supplied the ISBN to CreateSpace and they converted it to the bar code for free. Some printing companies will require you to have the bar codes created but CreateSpace does not. This makes life a little easier.
I also found this confusing the first time.
If you send your cover file to a regular book printer, you have to include the barcode yourself (meaning you have to buy/order it from somewhere - e.g., the source mentioned above, Bowker, or one of several other sources - and then place that image on the back cover).
With CS, however, you just enter your ISBN with your project info and leave the barcode space blank on the cover file you submit. CS produces and inserts the barcode for you (which saves you about $25 right there).
Lighthouse and the rest; if you use a Create Space barcode are your books found in Books in Print? And if they are in the Books in Print registry then who is the 'publisher of record.' This might not be such a favor if you don't buy your own.
In my case, my publishing firm (A Lighthouse for Leaders) bought a block of ISBNs and assigned one of them to my CS book. CS simply produced and printed the corresponding barcode on the cover for free (i.e., it's not "their" barcode) -- whereas if I'd used a different printer, I'd have had to buy that corresponding barcode from a third party and put it on the cover design myself. In either case, my firm is listed as the publisher.
Whether you supply you own ISBN, or accept one generated by CreateSpace, then CreateSpace should superimpose the barcode on the back cover for you.
Is your question really "if you use a CreateSpace ISBN" rather than "if you use a CreateSpace barcode"?
See one of my books with a CreateSpace-assigned ISBN here, and scroll down to Product Details to see that the Publisher is listed as "CreateSpace": http://www.amazon.com/Stock-Fundamentals-Trial-Dividend-Really/dp/1440454876
See the same book here published with my own ISBN (actually via Lulu not CreateSpace, but still my own ISBN), and scroll down to Product Details to see the Publisher listed as LOTONtech Limited: http://www.amazon.com/Stock-Fundamentals-Trial-Dividend-Really/dp/0955676495
Tony Loton, author --
Your reply is true about your situation, but it does not answer the question about CreateSpace's policy on listing themselves as the book publisher.
It is logical that the ISBN barcode which is EAN-13 BOOKLAN style, should be in the right place on the backcover. The Book Industry Standards group also wants the barcode on the inside front matter.
ISBNs can only be bought by either publishing companies or individuals who wish to self-publish. www.bowker.com
You can get a free ISBN barcode, and other types of barcodes here, simply type, and then download, rightclick the EPS file and POP that into the cover mechanical.
Kate has not answered the book in print questions, and the truth is CreateSpace does not give you an ISBN. Rather they "assign" an ISBN they bought to your title, and but the barcode on the back cover of the book. But the author 'gets' nothing in hand. No artwork, no Books-in-print publisher listing. They are baited, and saved the expense/trouble of buying ISBNs.
Kate, where are you? Earth to Kate, or anyone else for that matter who works for the company. Please answer the 'who is the publisher question' if an author takes the bait of free ISBN.
The availability of free barcodes makes the issue clearly one regarding who is the publisher of records, and the fact that the author does not get any artwork. CreateSpace probably would not give you back your cover mechanical with all the changes that made, or do they, if you want to go.
Please answer the 'who is the publisher question' if an author takes the bait of free ISBN.
Lipmag. . . Thanks for the information . . . so CreateSpace DOES credit for the book in all directories that list the title, and the title is lost in the thousands of self published books that are part of the CreateSpace universe.
Which means IF the author does all the work, including cover, is this a fair trade for a barcode that CreateSpace buys for $3 or even less. Barcodes get really cheap when bought in increments of thousands? Remember, I worked for Random House trade and HarperCollins for years.
Michelangelo, I think you answered your own question. The collective term for "all that work" you mentioned is publishing.
I can't imagine why someone who has decided to seriously engage in developing, writing, designing, producing, and selling books for profit (yet isn?t under a contract to do so) wouldn't form his/her own publishing company, buy a block of ISBNs, and operate it like a business.
Allowing CS to be the publisher does make sense for two types of people: (1) the person who is doing it mainly as a hobby or for fun (for example, a friend of mine who had all of her daughter's stories, poems, and artwork made into a book to give family members), and (2) the aspiring author who wants to test the market with a "real" book before spending a lot of money to jump into writing and self-publishing full force (barcodes are cheap, but ISBNs aren't, at least not in the USA).
I fail to see what the issue is here. In exchange for a free ISBN and barcode CreateSpace gets a non-exclusive license to print and distribute your book, and be listed as the publisher on Amazon.com (and affiliates) only. On your own website if you have one, you can list yourself as the publisher. On the copyright page inside your book you can list yourself as the publisher, and you are not required to mention CreateSpace at all. The only benefit to listing CS as the publisher on your book or website is when dealing with returns on faulty books.
If you wish to go elsewhere, CS do not impose any contract preventing this, they only stipulate you cannot use their ISBN. If you get a deal with a "real" publisher, they will use their own ISBN anyway. If you go to another POD you may have the option of publishing without an ISBN or buying a new one. If you no longer wish to publish through CS, you can close your account and thus end the license that CS requires to print and distribute your book.
If it's such a big deal for you, buy your own ISBN from Bowker, generate your own barcode from the website mentioned earlier, and publish wherever you like.
Enjoy it while it lasts. Don't forget on 1 Jan 09, CS will reintroduce the $39.00 fee on Pro Plan.
The issues is really obvious. Createspace discloses much important information about the author publisher information relatively late in the 'setup' process.
It could be offered earlier. And with more accuracy. Examples of missing informaiton are found in my postings. Trickery.
At some point, the publisher, and CreateSpace is a publisher, but the publisher with the most assets will become more important than regular publishers, as quantity of digital assets are a being used to measure value. You talk about cancelling the account. How much money do you want to spend to assert your rights legally if CreateSpace fails to delete production files for your books and continues to sell the title.
CreateSpace sent me email assuring me any mistakes are destroyed. Yet here on the forum, dated before and after that message, are complaints from authors who find their discards and old covers in the listings of Amazon partners who sell used books.
Kate could and should answer my questions and others. But does not. Why do you get so riled up on the side of CreateSpace?