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Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

Hi, first I would like to mention that it seems documents are reviewed differently depending on who does the reviewing. I mistakingly resubmitted a file which had already been approved and it was rejected the second time.

 

Anyway, my topic might help others wishing to publish standard sized comic books. Standard comics have a trim size of 6.63" x 10.24" (16.84 x 26.01 cm). I have created my PDF by adding the required margins for bleed and book thickness of 50 pages, totalling a size of 7.38" X 10.74".

 

Yet now I'm told the interior is too big for the trim size? What size should my PDF be then?

 

Anyone else used Createspace for standard comics?

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1. Aug 16, 2012 4:57 PM in response to: raisinlove
Re: Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

You only need to add 0.125" bleed to the top, bottom and one side of the page. The correct PDF size would be 6.755 x 10.49"

 

 

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2. Aug 16, 2012 5:04 PM in response to: raisinlove
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In addition to what Michelle said, if the reivew is comming from the InterirorReviewer, you should disregard it if you think your files are correct. It is not reliable, and especially not reliable with books that contain images.

 

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4. Aug 16, 2012 9:35 PM in response to: raisinlove
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First, take a look at Bleeds, free, 19 page, illustrated guide to bleeds and margins, do's and don't's for CreateSpace.

 

If your pages bleed 3S or 4S, you still need to respect the out-of-live margin with regard to text and certain graphics.

 

Walton

 

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5. Aug 16, 2012 10:41 PM in response to: raisinlove
Re: Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

Walton's Bleeds guide is very informative (esp. the bit I added on spreads )

 

To summarise, the 0.125" bleed goes beyond the page and will be trimmed off when the book is printed and bound. It's crucial that no important bits appear in the bleed area.

 

The margins are a minimum 0.25" and form part of the visible page after trimming. It's still important no live elements enter the margin area or CS will reject your files.

 

All up, your full page must be 6.755 x 10.49, but you cannot have any text, borders or other live elements 0.375" (0.125 + 0.25) from the edge of the page.

 

 

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6. Aug 16, 2012 10:49 PM in response to: raisinlove
Re: Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

First do not confuse a margin with a bleed, a bleed is added to the trim size (ie 6x9 with 3 side .125 bleed means the page size is 6.125x9.25). The reason this is done is so that if the cut is not directly on the trim edge then no white edging is shown as the image extends further than the intended trim line.  Margins are within the trim size, they are internal spacing ensuring that content is a specific distance from the trim edge.

 

In your case the trim size Michelle gave you is correct for a book that has images that bleed to the edge.

 

With a book set to bleed images there are a few things to consider

 

1) all live elements (text) must be at least .25" from the trim edge (.375" from the bleed edge)

2) while you technically do not have to follow the inner margin guideline for a book that has bleeds, CS uses a tight spine so approximately .25" of your inner margin will not be visible, it is best to keep text well outside this area to ensure it can be read (here the guidlines help) and keep it in mind if you want images to show in full.

 

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8. Dec 26, 2012 11:11 AM in response to: lipmag
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Oh!!! Thank You!!!  This was so helpful  lipmag  as i copied both your's  and waltons info to my notepad  ty 4 now cu later

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9. Dec 26, 2012 11:16 AM in response to: lipmag
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Gottcha... i'll try this someday soon  very apprciative of your help.  again ty so much for your assistance with the dimensions

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10. May 16, 2013 12:12 PM in response to: raisinlove
Re: Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

I plan on printing a full color 48 or more page standard size comic book with Createspace. The trim size will be 6.625×10.25". I know this is a custom size but how do I calculate the printing cost? For example, what size paper do I select to use the Createspace online cost calculator for this project (Createspace does not list 6.625×10.25" size). I'd also like to select the paper weight, glossy or matte, for interior pages and for covers. Any suggestions?

 

Also, if anyone printed a comic/graphic novel with Createspace please let me know how well or not it came out.

 

Thank you.

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11. May 16, 2013 1:36 PM in response to: jesse2003
Re: Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

Books are priced by:

  • page count (24 pg minimum)
  • color or black & white

 

Although we enter a trimsize and a quantity to get a price, at least so far, they make no difference (big or small, order 1 or 1000 . . . the cost is the same).


Go to https://www.createspace.com/Products/Book/ and click on the Buying Copies tab.

 

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12. May 16, 2013 2:17 PM in response to: walton
Re: Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

Thanks, Walton, but my question still remains unanswered. Here it is stated again (I hope it makes sense):

 

Createspace does not list a trim size of 6.625"×10.25", so how would I select this trim size? Also, how can I calculate printing cost without having the 6.625"×10.25" to calculate it on?

 

I appreciate your replies.

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13. May 16, 2013 2:21 PM in response to: jesse2003
Re: Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

Any size book between 4 x 6 to 8.5 x 11.69 is possible.  You can enter a custom size for your book when you create the project.

 

As for pricing, enter any size . . . as I said, size has no effect on the price.

 

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14. May 16, 2013 4:07 PM in response to: jesse2003
Re: Standard Comic Book (custom trim)

Cost at CS is ALWAYS based on the number of pages and whether the book is black and white or color. Those are the only two considerations when it comes to price. The cover can be color even on a black and white book at no additional cost.

 

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